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No recourse to public funds

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New postby jazzbo » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:04 pm

Puplic Fund konusu oldukca hassas ve tum entry clearance i olanlarin dikkat etmeleri gereken bir konu.

Asagida bununla ilgili bir FAQ var ve burada;


What about other benefits and public
services?

Only the forms of support listed above count
as public funds. Public funds do not include the
following work-related benefits, which are based
on National Insurance contributions:


contribution-based jobseeker’s allowance


Bu contrubition based jobseekers allowance ile ilgili bir bilgisi olan varmi aceba?



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or a limited period, one of the
conditions attached to your leave
may be that you have ‘no recourse to
public funds’. This will be stamped in
your passport.

This leaflet explains what

‘no recourse to public funds’ means.

It explains what funds you can and

cannot claim if this condition applies

to you. It also explains what will

happen if you break this condition.

Who should read this document?

You should read this if you are from a country
that is not a member of the European Economic
Area (EEA) and:


You are applying for limited leave to enter or
remain in the UK -for instance, a work permit,
student visa or marriage visa.

You are currently in the UK with limited leave
to enter or remain -for instance on a work
permit, student visa or marriage visa.

You are applying for further or indefinite leave
to remain in the UK -for example, if you are
applying for your work permit to be extended.
What are public funds?

‘Public funds’ include a range of income
related benefits, together with housing and
homelessness support. The full list is as follows:

• income-based jobseeker’s allowance
• income support
• child tax credit
• working tax credit
• a social fund payment
• child benefit
• housing benefit
• council tax benefit
• state pension credit
• attendance allowance
• severe disablement allowance
• carer’s allowance
• disability living allowance
• an allocation of local authority housing
• local authority homelessness assistance
Am I allowed to claim public funds?

In most cases you won’t be able to claim any of
the benefits, tax credits or housing assistance
that count as public funds. Exceptions do apply
to some benefits. You can find a list of the most
common exceptions further down this leaflet.


If you are in any doubt about whether you are
able to claim a particular fund, you should
contact the department or agency that issues it.
You can find a list of useful contacts at the end
of this leaflet.
able to claim a particular fund, you should
contact the department or agency that issues it.
You can find a list of useful contacts at the end
of this leaflet.

What happens if I claim funds I am not
allowed to receive?

There are very serious consequences if you
illegitimately claim any type of benefit or support
that counts as a public fund. Unless you are
receiving a fund under one of the exceptions set
out below, claiming public funds is a breach of
your conditions of entry to the UK.

Breaching your conditions of entry is a criminal
offence. It may mean that your leave to remain
in the UK comes to an end. You may also
have applications for further or indefinite leave
refused.

What about other benefits and public
services?

Only the forms of support listed above count
as public funds. Public funds do not include the
following work-related benefits, which are based
on National Insurance contributions:


contribution-based jobseeker’s allowance

incapacity benefit

retirement pension

widows benefit and bereavement benefit

guardian’s allowance

statutory maternity pay
Healthcare and education also do not count as
public funds – although your immigration status
may affect whether you are eligible for them.

Do any exceptions apply to housing
assistance?

Two types of housing assistance count as public
funds:


An allocation of housing, or grant of a licence
or tenancy, by a local housing authority –
––– for
example, through the ‘housing waiting list’.

Housing assistance under homelessness
legislation.
However, there are other types of housing
assistance that do not count as public funds:


Housing provided directly by housing
associations. These are independent
organisations and are separate from local
housing authorities.

Housing provided by Key Worker Housing
schemes.

Housing provided by your employer – for
example, if you are a nurse and you are
living in housing provided by the local NHS
Trust.
If you receive any of these types of support, it
will not count as recourse to public funds.

Do any exceptions apply to benefits?

In most cases you will not be able to claim
any of the benefits or tax credits that count as
public funds. However, for some funds there are
exceptions to this. If you receive a fund under
one of these exceptions, it will not count as
recourse to public funds.


The most common exceptions are listed below.

a)
I’m a member of the family of an EEA
national - am I eligible for any benefits?

If you are living with another family member
who is an EEA national – for example, your
child or your partner – you may be eligible for
the following benefits:


Child benefit

A social fund payment

Attendance allowance

Severe disablement allowance

Carer’s allowance

Disability living allowance
b)
My partner is allowed to claim tax credits

-can I claim them too?
Claims for child and working tax credits are
assessed jointly. If you are living with a spouse
or partner who is allowed to claim tax credits,
your name may be included in the claim.

Other benefits classed as public funds are
assessed individually.

c)
My home country has a social security

agreement with the UK or the EU - am I

eligible for any benefits?

If your home country has a social security
agreement with the EU or UK, you may be
eligible for certain benefits.

If you are from Turkey, Morocco, Algeria,
Tunisia or San Marino, you may be eligible for
the following funds.


Child tax credit

Child benefit

Income-based jobseeker’s allowance

Income support

A social fund payment

Housing benefit

Council tax benefit
If you are from Barbados, Canada, Israel,
Mauritius, New Zealand, Croatia, Bosnia-
Herzegovina, Serbia and Montenegro or the
former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, you
may be eligible for the following benefits:


Child benefit

A social fund payment

Attendance allowance

Severe disablement allowance

Carer’s allowance

Disability living allowance
d)
I’ve been awarded tax credits in error

- will this affect my leave?
If you applied for child or working tax credits
before January 2005, Her Majesty’s Revenue
and Customs (HMRC) may have paid you them
in error. If so, HMRC will stop the payment. Any
tax credits you did receive before the error was
corrected will not count as recourse to public
funds.

e)
I’ve been affected by a temporary loss of

funds from abroad – am I eligible for any

benefits?

If you are temporarily without funds, due to
disruption of remittances from abroad, you may
be eligible for the following funds:


• Child tax credits
• Working tax credits
• Income-based jobseeker’s allowance
• Income support
• A social fund payment
• Housing benefit
• Council tax benefit
These benefits and tax credits will only be
awarded if there is a reasonable expectation
that the supply of funds will be resumed. They
will only be paid for a short period. A claim can
only be made once during any period of leave.


Table showing the effect claiming DWP/HMRC benefits will have on applications for further or
indefinite leave, depending on your circumstances:
. you will not be eligible for this fund - receipt will count as recourse to public funds
¸ you may be eligible for this fund - if you are, receipt will not count as recourse to public
funds
Living with family memberwho is an EEAnationalSocial security agreementwith UKSocial security agreementwith EUMy partner is eligible for taxcreditsTemporary loss of fundsfrom abroadWrongly paid tax creditsbefore January 2005
.

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Income based jobseeker’s allowance
Income support
Child tax credit

Working tax credit
A social fund payment
Child benefit
Housing benefit
Council tax benefit

State pension credit
Attendance allowance
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New postby jazzbo » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:12 pm

Simdi anlasildi :) NIN'iz olup beli bir donem tax odemis iseniz, 6 ay boyunca bu yardimi alabiliyorsunuz issiz kaldiginizda ve bu pulic fund olarak consider edilmiyor

Deneyen varmi?


Contribution-based Job Seekers Allowance

This is paid to you when you’ve paid a certain amount of National Insurance (NI) contributions through previous employment. (This is called your contribution record). In other words, if you’ve previously been employed for any length of time, you will have paid National Insurance. If your contributions reached a certain level, you would now be eligible for Contribution based Job Seekers Allowance.

This is paid for a maximum of 6 months, (after which you’ll need to claim Income-based Job Seekers Allowance). You can’t use the same NI contributions if you need to make another claim later. People under 25 receive less than people over 25.

Also, contribution-based JSA can’t be used to pay housing costs, so for example if you have a mortgage you’ll need to claim Income-based Job Seekers Allowance as well.

For more information on Contribution based Job Seekers Allowance, and to find out how much you may be able to receive, click here.
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New postby baris » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:40 am

jazzbo: "Kayserili var mi?" demek istedin heralde :D
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New postby jazzbo » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:49 am

Baris , Ben Kayseriliyim,,,,,


niye boyleyiz biz yaa...vallahi tez konusu olur bu is..

tevekkeli bana 'Rabbi' diye seslenen ingilizler var :)
Ilk baslarda hanim cok merak ediyordu, niye ben Kayseriliyim deyince tum insanlarin surati bir anda degisiyor diyordu...gercegi anlamasi cok uzun zaman almadi sukur :)

Kayseriliye sormuslar,

-Iki kere iki kac eder?
-Aliyokmu?Satiyokmu? demis...

Sanirim Kayserilileri en iyi aciklayan fikra bu olsa gerek
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New postby baris » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:02 pm

Istanbuldan elazig otobusune bindim yanima bi adam oturdu.
-selamun aleykum
-aleykum selam
-yolculuk nereye?
-e elazii?!...
-ne is yapiyosun?
-kayserili misin?
-gayseriliyim..
-tesisat isleri yapiyorum
-ooo o islerde iyi para var
-kayserili misin diye sormustum di mi?
-hee gayseriliyim.
-basim agriyo biraz walkman dinliyim ben..
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New postby semsure » Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:53 pm

Merhaba,
Tier1 vizesi olup ta, child benefit icin basvuran oldu mu hic?
Yanlis anlamadiysam Turkeyinin EU ile yaptigi bazi anlasmalar sayesinde, public funds lardan yararlanilabiliyor. Bununla ilgili asagidaki dokumanda (sayfa 21), Turkiye vatandaslarinin yararlanabilecegi public funds lar listelenmis.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

gecen hafta yazin dogan cocugum icin child benefit formunu HMRc ye yolladim, yukaridaki dokumani ben dogru mu anladim, yoksa child benefit tier1 extension basvurusunu red edilmesine sebep olur mu?

tsk.
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New postby HSAG1D » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:17 pm

@semsure,

child benefit'den bu isi riske atacak kadar bir miktar geliyor mu? Benim bildigim toplam miktarin mebzul oldugu.

bir de hangi ulke vatandasi oldugunun yaninda, vize turune de bagli olabilir diye dusunuyorum. sonucta vizenin ustunde kocaman yaziyor no recourse to public funds diye.
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New postby semsure » Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:30 am

@HSAG1D
ya acikcasi bu zahmete degmiyor, hanimin cevresinde benefit alan bir kac kisi var, benim de kafami yedi, biz niye almiyoruz diye. Ustune tier1 extension icin odenen onca fee olunca, ben de niye basvurmayayim diye dusundum.

HMRC application formunda da zaten "immigration to control" soruluyor, ama HMRC sitesinde immigration control tabii olsaniz bile alma hakkiniz olabilir diye bir konu var.
Benim anladigim bu TR-UK arasindaki sosyal guvenlik anlasmalarindan kaynaklaniyor.

asagidaki notta Turkiye acikca alabilir yazmis, vize turleri aciklanmamis.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/childbenefit/ch5_notes.pdf


bu arada child benefit haftada £20 bi sey ilk cocuk icin.
yeni kanunla da £60.000 ustu yillik geliri olanlardan reclaim edilecekmis.

forumda yok mu cocugu dogan ?
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New postby pisiyan » Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:11 am

@semsure nin belirttigi antlasmadan dolayi "No recourse to public funds" yazsa bile child benefit ve diger bazi benefitler alinabiliyor. HMRC nin child benefit formunda da exception olan ulkeler cok acik bir sekilde yaziyor. Buna ragmen genel de basvurulari reddediyorlar (No recourse to public fund dan dolayi) Birkac itirazdan sonra kabul ediyorlar.

Tier 1 vizesi ile child benefit alip ILR alabilen 2 kisi biliyorum.
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New postby semsure » Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:26 pm

@pisiyan

ilk basta red etmeleri sacma olmus, zaten 3 aya yakindir extension cevabi icin bekliyorum. bir de itiraz ile ugrasmak iyice vakit kaybina yol acacak.

benim extension henuz belli olmadi, bu durumu "Change of Circumstances" ile bidirmek gerekiyor mu ?
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New postby pisiyan » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:10 pm

semsure wrote:@pisiyan

ilk basta red etmeleri sacma olmus, zaten 3 aya yakindir extension cevabi icin bekliyorum. bir de itiraz ile ugrasmak iyice vakit kaybina yol acacak.

benim extension henuz belli olmadi, bu durumu "Change of Circumstances" ile bidirmek gerekiyor mu ?


Reddedilen Child benefit basvurusu yanlis anlasilmasin. ILR /Extension hakkinda bir problem bilmiyorum. Cocuk ile ilgili herhangi bir bildirim yok galiba. Zaten vize alabilmek icin ayri bir dependant basvurusu yapman gerekecek.
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